Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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That's true @virtual_master; it's possible for someone to pre-register names in a namespace and then announce a spec that uses that namespace. Given the limited number of namespaces being proposed, I don't see this as a major problem.
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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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jdbtracker wrote:And that is the beauty of it, you can start your own folder within the Name Hierarchy... why not just use your company name as a namespace and create a personal network from there for yourself. Hell why not start a p2pool network or folding network where F@H clients communicate off of? All running off of your local blockchain, never touching the outside Internet.

It's up to you.
So who created the "d/" folder ? who owns that "folder" on the ledger? does it benefit that person on any way they we use their "folder" to claim namespaces within it? ie

I say folder but im not sure if that's the right term I should be using

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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Google wrote:
jdbtracker wrote:And that is the beauty of it, you can start your own folder within the Name Hierarchy... why not just use your company name as a namespace and create a personal network from there for yourself. Hell why not start a p2pool network or folding network where F@H clients communicate off of? All running off of your local blockchain, never touching the outside Internet.

It's up to you.
So who created the "d/" folder ? who owns that "folder" on the ledger? does it benefit that person on any way they we use their "folder" to claim namespaces within it? ie

I say folder but im not sure if that's the right term I should be using
say namespace instead of folder.

Look at it like this. Much like when you create a subfolder on your harddisk and put a file in it. It doesn't matter who created the folder. What matters is the file that's in it.
It costs you NMC to create and hold such a file.

Everyone is open to create new folders/namespaces. But you can't just create a folder on its own. You always need to create atleast one file/name in this folder. And this costs NMC.

You can't create an empty folder, if that's what you ask.

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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georgem wrote:
Google wrote:
jdbtracker wrote:And that is the beauty of it, you can start your own folder within the Name Hierarchy... why not just use your company name as a namespace and create a personal network from there for yourself. Hell why not start a p2pool network or folding network where F@H clients communicate off of? All running off of your local blockchain, never touching the outside Internet.

It's up to you.
So who created the "d/" folder ? who owns that "folder" on the ledger? does it benefit that person on any way they we use their "folder" to claim namespaces within it? ie

I say folder but im not sure if that's the right term I should be using
say namespace instead of folder.

Look at it like this. Much like when you create a subfolder on your harddisk and put a file in it. It doesn't matter who created the folder. What matters is the file that's in it.
It costs you NMC to create and hold such a file.

Everyone is open to create new folders/namespaces. But you can't just create a folder on its own. You always need to create atleast one file/name in this folder. And this costs NMC.

You can't create an empty folder, if that's what you ask.
EDIT: no wait, you can create an empty folder, by registering the name "" (nothing, empty space) with it. But still it is considered a name, it's just that the name is "" (empty)

Am I right?

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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georgem wrote:
Google wrote:
jdbtracker wrote:And that is the beauty of it, you can start your own folder within the Name Hierarchy... why not just use your company name as a namespace and create a personal network from there for yourself. Hell why not start a p2pool network or folding network where F@H clients communicate off of? All running off of your local blockchain, never touching the outside Internet.

It's up to you.
So who created the "d/" folder ? who owns that "folder" on the ledger? does it benefit that person on any way they we use their "folder" to claim namespaces within it? ie

I say folder but im not sure if that's the right term I should be using
say namespace instead of folder.

Look at it like this. Much like when you create a subfolder on your harddisk and put a file in it. It doesn't matter who created the folder. What matters is the file that's in it.
It costs you NMC to create and hold such a file.

Everyone is open to create new folders/namespaces. But you can't just create a folder on its own. You always need to create atleast one file/name in this folder. And this costs NMC.

You can't create an empty folder, if that's what you ask.
is this not an empty folder?

http://explorer.dot-bit.org/tx/2555746

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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doublepost... sorry
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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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doublepost... sorry (I clicked on edit, but after submit it created another post? why?)
Last edited by georgem on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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Google wrote: is this not an empty folder?

http://explorer.dot-bit.org/tx/2555746

Hm I think the best way to understand it is to not look at it as folder, but as a name. So forget everything about folders and namespace. They don't really exist.

a/ is just a part of a name. It doesn't really exist as folder. It's a name.

a/testname is also a name.

This doesn't mean that a/ somehow owns a/testname.

It's like car, and carpet
car
carpet

car would be a/
carpet would be a/testname

Look at a/ or d/ or e/ or whatever/ as simply strings. It's like a substring, or partword or subword...

the / is like a marker to tell software specifications what protocol to use.

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Re: Why d/yourname vs b/ or g/ or c/ of p/

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georgem is correct; the Namecoin client/protocol doesn't have any such thing as namespaces, just names. The d/ is just a hint to any software that might want to parse the data, so that different data formats can be used without confusing the software. No one owns a namespace.
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